Sprint data plans

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enigma63941
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For those under Sprint, is my interpretation correct, but isn't the Blackberry data pack unlimited data or do I need a separate data pack? I am aware of using the "phone as a modem" in the Blackberry desktop manger program, but can Sprint see that your using the phone as a modem in the program and start charging you for using there data if not paying them the $15 a month for tethering?

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I'm not a Sprint user, but our product goes through your original data plan. The data is just like any other data on your phone...

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MTBryan
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I am a Sprint user. I've been using Tether on and off for about 6 weeks now.
It just seems to go through my data plan (I have an unlimited data plan) and Sprint has never said anything, or charged me any additional data charges.

strokeofgenius
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I have Sprint and everything has been working great until this morning when I could not connect. Screen on BB goes back to apps. Called Sprint and they said they updated this am and blocked my tether because I'm not paying their $15. NOW WHAT?

autobot
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Anyone else on Sprint having any issues with Tether?

@strokeofgenius
You called Sprint and asked them what?

strokeofgenius
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When I couldn't connect I wanted to check first to see if there was any problem with my phone. I asked if they (Sprint)knew why I was having trouble connecting to tether. I wasn't uncomfortable doing this because before I bought tether I asked them if they had any problems with me using it and if it worked. At that time they told me "no problem" and the tech I was talking to even said her friends had tether and loved it!

The rep then told me that just that morning they had updated their files and that I was not supposed to have the "phone as a modem" "turned on" since I wasn't paying for it ($15/mo. to Sprint).

Just thought I'd give you some more details.

hhzhao
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I am not sure if any of their notion of "phone as a modem" "turned on" would have any affect to your accessing Tether, since it is just an other Blackberry data services. As long as you have an BB data plan, the access should be there.

However, carrier has their rights (within the limitation) to determine if you were "abusing" the data usage.

Unless, all the Sprint users are having trouble with Tether access, it is unlikely that Sprint can block specific TCP and/or UDP ports for specific accounts and device.

Whether you can access their "DUN" is entirely different story.

strokeofgenius
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I don't understand some of your terminology, please be patient . First, I have a BB unlimited internet plan. Second, if you mean excessive usage as "abusing" the data usage that can't be it since I don't use it every day. However, when I do connect to tether I just leave it connected without actually going on-line. Also, could you please explain TCP, UDP, and DUN?

Thanks

hhzhao
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If you can connect to internet on your phone, you are general ok to using Tether. While you are connected Tether (active), even you are not access anything on your PC, there is still small data packets that transmitted between your BB and Tether gateway server, it generally called "Keep-a-live" status. Normal Tether usage should not be seen as "abusive". However, it is up to Carrier to define what they would consider as "abusive".

"TCP" and "UDP" are the terms of specific protocol and ports that are used to transmit data on internet. Tether require specific TCP and UDP ports to be available. Unless for specific security reason and network infrastructure needs, those posts are general available through the internet.

"DUN" stands for "Dial Up Network", this is generally how carriers to offer the so call "using phone as modem" services. By dialing a special code, like #777, your phone will be connect to a specific gateway from your carrier (or sometime they call if APN), to provide the internet service for your PC, this is what they normally charge for $15/month with 5GB of data usage limitation. Access via "DUN" is separated from your BB unlimited data plan since BB data plan do not going through carrier's gateway (or APN).

When you start the Tether on the BB device, you can press BB Menu key, then select "View Logs". It will tell you if you have successfully connected to Tether gateway server. It will indicate if TCP and/or UDP has made successful connection. If those are all fine, the issue is most likely on the client PC side.

strokeofgenius
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OK! When I get into town tomorrow morning and again have a signal for my BB I will certainly check the "View Logs". The only problem I foresee is when I last started tether on my BB it immediately gave me a black screen and went to the apps screen. We'll see what happens this time. Thanks so much for all your info.

autobot
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Thank you hhzhao, your on top of your game today.

That was a wonderfully laid out post, informative and nicely detailed :)

hhzhao
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You are welcome. Just try my best to help.

autobot
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I wasn't trying to sound like you shouldn't talk about Tether to your carrier, that is your right of course.

roseng
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I have several Sprint accounts. One has phone as modem included (BB Server Plan) and one that I pay $15.00 extra for.

wiltavares135
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how did you get charged $15 if its free and you just use the data from the exsisting data plan?

strokeofgeniusns
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Well - before I tell you what happened today I just want to thank you again. hhzhao - your post was brilliant and I understood everything. Today when I tried to follow your advice re logging I found that my bb just kept trying to validate FOREVER. I had to call Sprint again after I tried to use my browser and couldn't only to discover that my phone needed to be rebooted and after that all was right with the world. Tether is once again running beautifully. When I asked about what that other rep was talking about he said the same thing you guys did. It didn't make sense to him either! Thanks again.

hhzhao
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You are very welcome and glad everything is working for you now.

wiltavares135
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if I buy tether does this mean that I have to pay monthly for tether?

wiltavares135
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Also, Since i have sprint, I wont be charged the extra $15 a month right? I looked at the posts before and saw that the guy needed to reboot his phone then tether worked, Im just asking incase if I missed something.

I have the unlimited plan.

Thank you
William T.

hhzhao
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There is no monthly charge for using Tether. With unlimited data plan, you are good to go. Carrier specified "Tethering plan" is an entirely different service.

autobot
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Thank you for your help hhzhao.

wiltavares135
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Thank so much for the info

strokeofgenius
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I'm sorry if I added to the confusion. Sprint cannot prevent you from using Tether and as said, there is no monthly fee with Tether.

Shortly after my last post I also received an email from Tether apologizing for a slight technical problem - whatever that was about.

Evidently that tech from Sprint who told me they had blocked me was totally nuts. The next (and last) Sprint rep I talked to verified there was no way Sprint could know I was using Tether and no way they could interfere.

Sheesh.

autobot
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Thank you for letting us know about you experiences with Sprint, it should help others understand that Tether does work with Sprint even though Sprint says you can't Tether.

wiltavares135
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Thank you for helping me to further understand. I really appreciate your time taken for this matter.

William Tavares

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I have a Sprint Blackberry 8330. I have it bluetooth paired to my HP Mini running Windows. XP with WIDCOMM Bluetooth Software. I can not get internet access.

USB= I connect the USB cable to my Mini and BB. I run Tether on my Mini and on my BB. I select USB on both devices.

Mini= Connected to BB
BB=Tether is running

NO packets sent or received.

Bluetooth= I have my Mini and BB paired. I run tether on both devices and select Bluetooth. I get a Socket 10108 error on Mini and Tether on my BB shuts down. Tether on the Mini then attempts to connect to the BB again but the App on the BB has to be restarted to the same result.

I have tried Disabling the Wifi card and all other network adapters while running Tether.

Can anyone help me?

Computilize

hhzhao
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which version of Tether are you running on both BB and Hp mini?

autobot
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You need to make sure you have your BlackBerry devices Bluetooth options set to "Discoverable:" "Yes" when using WIDCOMM.

If this doesn't work you may need to uninstall the WIDCOMM software and let Windows install the default Microsoft generic Bluetooth stack and drivers. Then re-pair your BlackBerry to your PC and try Tether again. This does not work with every Bluetooth adapter.

computilize
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I have the BB set to Discoverable.

I would like to try an get it working throught the USB cable first and then I want to try the Bluetooth. Using USB connects fine but I have no internet (0 Packets Sent/Received) What could be preventing me from access the internet?

I am running V. 1.1.0.2 on my Mini
I am running V. 1.1.0.4 on my BB

Computilize

autobot
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Could you tell me what the Tether log says on your BB?

With Tether running click the BlackBerry key and select "View Log".

Trkdrvr40821
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I hate to break up the party Sprint Users, but I have some bad news. If you have an existing 15$ Blackberry Tethering Phone-As-Modem add on to your Blackberry Personal Pack for $30, Leave it on or lose it.

As of Jan 1, 2010, Sprint no longer carries the Phone-As-Modem or "Tethered Modem" option for $15. They phased it out due to the "Everything" plans and they are no longer carrying it.

People who still have PAM (Phone-As-Modem, a.k.a. Tethered Modem) can keep it on their accounts due to the grandfather clauses Sprint has with some packages. Keep in mind though, if you ever say to Sprint, "I want to discontinue the $15 PAM services..." you will NEVER get it back again.

Your $30 Blackberry package for unlimited Internet is from the HANDSET ONLY. That means that when you pay $30, you can't use your laptop.

Hope this clears a bit more of the confusion up.

Plus, I CAN'T GET THIS PROGRAM TO CONNECT!!! lol.

christinehill83
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im a sprint user and for sure it works..i have used it for over a year and have never been billed extra. I use it mostly to connect to an online games like farmville while at work...i have a BB curve 8830m

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